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Blog #4: Romance – The Hungry Tide

Posted by Gabrielle Delwyn (She/her/) on

Romance plays a big part in how the novel is structured. These man to woman relationships that occur in the novel can allow us to make deeper connections to each of the characters and also it essentially helps with the plot of the story. It helps readers to have a better understanding of social, economic and cultural factors in India as well as helping us understand how these man – woman relationships add on to the substance of the novel.  We can see this through the relationships of Kanai and Moyna, Kanai and Piya, Piya and Fokir and Moyna and Fokir. One can say there is a love triangle between the three characters Kanai, Piya and Fokir but I also believe that something is simmering between Fokir and Piya as well as Kanai and Monya.

Kanai is a player and likes to think of himself as a ladies man. He is very self absorbed and has the mentality that he gets what he wants. Piya can get a sense of that and even his aunt knows that about Kanai as well because she states, ” he’s one of those men who like to think of himself as being irresistible to the other sex” (pg. 208). With that being said he still somehow is able to come off as sincere and sympathize with individuals. He is also  a very intellectual man of a higher class which gives him more pointers. I believe this is why we see his character bonding with both Monya and Piya. Through the interactions with both females he flirts a lot and it can come off as inappropriate in some cases but I think both ladies see some potential in him for different reasons, especially Monya. Monya and Kanai share much more in common due to the fact that they are both head strong individuals and both have desires to get what they want out of life. Monya likes the fact that he is a well established man who went to school and has his own business. Kanai likes the fact that Monya is a very ambitious woman and is able to uproot her life to take the steps she needs in order to become a nurse. He sees himself in her which is why to me they are more compatible.

On the other hand Fokir is the opposite, being that he cannot read or write he is a man that stays to himself and finds joy in being with his son on the water fishing and catching crabs. He is a husband to Monya but they live very separate lives. When reading this novel to me it seems that they should not be together. They do not seem compatible and it is very clear that they want different things out of life. When Piya and Fokir interact there is minimum communication with words but the connection is clear as day. Fokir may not have gone to school or become someone of a higher occupation but its very certain that he is intellectual, a protector and valuable when it comes to water resources and surviving in the conditions that they live in. Piya sees this which is how they fix upon one another. They both have an understanding of the sea/ river and even though she specializes in marine mammals he is still of great help when navigating how to spot them and navigate danger when it is near. There have been many instances of physical alterations and moments where Piya has smelled him which created a sensation of bliss for her. She feels very safe around him and a sense of calmness which I believe Fokir feels as well because you can see the energy shift from when he is at home with his wife to when he is out on the water by himself and with Piya. Moyna knows her husband is unhappy with the life she is making him live for her benefit and continues to belittle and embarrass him. I am not a fan of her and neither is PIya but out of respect for Fokir she deals.  In my eyes it makes the most sense for Fokir and Piya to be together and Monya and Kanai to be with one another, it just makes sense.

P.S. I am definitely team Fokir and Piya all the way!

 

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The intimacy of language – Blog #4

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In “The Hungry Tide” by Amitav Ghosh, Language is something that goes beyond words. It branches into many different actions and terms that are understood even if they don’t speak the same language. In the novel language is beyond the world of words and is more intimate when Fokir and Piya communicate with their actions. Since Piya cannot speak or understand Bangla despite her heritage and cultural background of it, and Fokir cannot speak or understand English as he was not educated in it. Their drastic different backgrounds and knowledge sets the scene for a very interesting relationship between the two characters.

Piyas disconnect from her heritage and Fokirs connection with his culture makes both characters help each other in a way they didn’t know they needed. The way they communicate is through gestures and interests the most. Both of their knowledge in nature and animals is what first connects them as Fokir is the only one that recognized what Piya needed help finding for her research. Their connection with nature and interest in it is something that the other characters in the novel don’t understand, like Kanai for example as he is very modern and has in a way forgotten his roots with nature and the world around him and the state of it. The Sundarbans are a place of greenery and oceans with people still living their lives without the technology advances or new jobs that the economy has forced them into to survive, they’re surviving off of what they already know which are things like fishing and farming and hunting rather than having a desk job or being a laborer in the city.

But there is both a negative as positive as Fokir doesn’t adapt to the changes because his children’s educations are at risk but in the Sundarbans he’s living the life he truly desires even if he makes little to no money from it. One of the ways that Piya and Fokirs conversations are intimate is by the singing.

“She had thought that she had seen a muscular quality of innocence in him, a
likable kind of naïveté, but now, listening to this song, she began to ask
herself whether it was she who was naïve. She would have liked to know
what he was singing about and what the lyrics meant — but she knew too that
a river of words would not be able to tell her exactly what made the song
sound as it did right then, in that place.”(81)

This moment in the novel shows a very intimate moment between Piya and Fokir where the both of them connect with something like music. Music that Piya doesn’t understand but the connection she feels to it is intense and just right. While Fokir is singing to her which is a tradition many people still follow in Bangladesh when they follow the “fokir” lifestyle which is symbolized by Fokirs name in the novel. Music is a very intimate platonic way they connect with each other as it brings them both a sense of being in the right moment at the right time. The American standard that Piya is used to is getting changed while she gets to know Fokir more through the story as he’s a gateway to her learning more about her culture and heritage more, and for Fokir, Piya is a way to explore his connection with nature and have someone to share it with.

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Blog Post #4 – Ghosh

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In the chapters between “Memory” and “Kratie” in Amitav Ghosh’s “The Hungry Tide,” we can see that Kanai’s views on belonging become a lot more complex as he navigates his identity and his connections to the Sundarbans. We can see that Kanai doesn’t see himself ‘fitting in’ very well with his surroundings/ compared to everyone else. It is made clear that e comes from a more urban background, and his interactions with the more rural life of the Sundarbans show this disconnect.. This sense of not-belonging is used to highlight his lack of familiarity with the culture and the people who inhabit the place.

As he delves more into the community, Kanai begins to learn more about their stories which is filled with tons of struggles, resilience, and tons of displacement. These stories connect with him on a more personal level, allowing him to reflect more on his own identity with his Bengali heritage and the disconnect he feels from it. The stories of local inhabitants, more specifically the stories regarding the people who dealt with hardships because of the drastic environmental changes and socio-political issues allow Kanai to understand the deep ties people have to the land. He begins to see that belonging goes beyond just your background, it also has to do with shared experiences and connections.

Now keeping this idea in mind with his relationship to Piya, we can see how she plays a more crucial role in Kanai’s evolving sense of belonging. It isn’t just that both him and Piya don’t have as strong a connection with the land, it’s about this growing connection they have that is allowing both to evolve. Piya’s passion for the environment and this commitment she has to studying the ecosystem of the Sundarbans draws Kanai closer to her and the landscape. Through her eyes, he starts to appreciate the beauty region, which helps connect this gap between his urban identity with his cultural one. Piya’s enthusiasm challenges Kanai to rethink his perceptions and assumptions, which encourages him to engage more deeply with the world around him.

As the novel goes more to the chapter “Kratie,” Kanai’s understanding of belonging shifts significantly. He starts to recognize that true belonging involves an emotional connection to both people and place, rather than just being tied to a specific geographical location. His growing empathy for the locals and their struggles allows him to build a deeper connection to the Sundarbans. This transformation marks a change in Kanai’s views on the place, as he learns that belonging is an ongoing process which helps shape one’s understanding.

Overall, Kanai’s journey shows the complexity of belonging. It shows that he comes to understand that belonging is not just a fixed state but an ever-evolving relationship, engulfed by personal growth and the connections we can make with others. This journey really builds and highlights the novel’s broader theme of ‘interconnectedness’ and the ties between people and their environments.

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Blog post #4

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In the novel Ghosh examines the tensions between formal, intellectual knowledge and experimental understanding. This contrast is evident in the chapters “Memory” to “Kristie” where the narrative focuses on Kanai’s discovery of his uncle Nirmal’s journal and Piya’s deepening in collaboration with Fokir.

In “Memory” Kanai begins reading Nirmal’s journal, where his uncle reflects on his leftists ideals and intellectual life. Nirmal’s writing captures his admiration for revolutionary movements, but it also highlights the disconnect between his theories and the lived reality of the Sundarbans. Kanai notes that his uncle saw everything in terms of ideas but was ineffective in bringing about real change. Nirmal’s failure to reconcile his intellectual pursuits with the practical needs of the local people serves as a critique of detached intellectualism. Through Kanai’s reading, we see hoe memory, though important for preserving ideas, can be insufficient in addressing immediate concerns.

While Kanai navigates his uncle’s intellectual legacy, Piya is immersed in a different kind of knowledge, one that is rooted in experience and a deep connection to nature. Traveling with Fokir, she becomes increasingly reliant on his knowledge of the Sundarbans’ waterways. Fokir’s intuitive grasp of the land and sea contrasts with Piya’s scientific instruments. In “Kratie,” Piya realizes that Fokir’s understanding surpasses what her formal education can offer, “For Piya, it was a revelation that someone could navigate the channels and creeks without any of the tools she relied on” (Ghosh 192). This revelation highlights the novel’s theme of competing knowledge systems.

Kanai’s attitude toward Fokir in these chapters reveals a tension between social class and knowledge. Although Kanai acknowledges Fokir’s skill, he views him as someone of lower status, useful only as long as he serves a purpose. Kanai thinks of Fokir as “someone like a servant” (Ghosh 185), showing how formal education and social hierarchy shape Kanai’s perception of worth. This contrasts sharply with Piya, who comes to value Fokir’s expertise despite their differences.

Through these interactions, Ghosh explores the limitations of intellectual knowledge when disconnected from the realities of the natural world. Piya, though a scientist, becomes a bridge between formal and informal knowledge. She respects Fokir’s experience, while Kanai remains distanced by his arrogance. Piya’s openness suggests that a true understanding of the Sundarbans requires a combination of both scientific and local knowledge.

Nirmal’s journal reinforces this theme, as his intellectual engagement with revolutionary ideas fails to address the practical concerns of the Sundarbans’ people. The journal serves as a reminder that memory, while powerful, is not always a solution to present challenges. Ultimately, these chapters suggest that knowledge must be adaptable, drawing from both memory and lived experience, to effectively engage with complex environments.

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Blog Post #4: Contrasting Relationships

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Throughout the novel, there is a common theme of intelligence and communication. Ghosh’s most notable contrast is between the two characters Kanai and Fokir. Kanai is characterized to be intelligent, being multilingual and excelling in areas of travel and understanding of Indian cultures and geography. However, Kanai lacks respect for women and is shown to constantly objectify them. Fokir on the other hand is a contrast to Kanai’s character. He is often ridiculed for his inability to read and write, labelling him as “unintelligent” to the people around him, more specifically his wife Moyna and Kanai. Despite his lacks we see that through Piya’s internal dialogue and interactions with him that he’s more worthy of her respect; Ghosh’s use of Piya and Moyna throughout the novel serves the purpose of contrasting Kanai and Fokir’s characters.

First, it is important to highlight how Kanai interacts with Piya and Moyna. For Piya he is often flirtatious and occassionally makes her uncomfortable. In the Chapter, “A Sunset” He states how Piya would be, “…much more to my taste.” (Ghosh, Pg.220) When the topic of marriage came up when Piya suspected he might have some romantic feelings towards Moyna. It’s worth noting that Kanai does infact answer Piya’s question about Moyna but only stating that she’d be good for “a fling.” Highlighting the aspect of respect that Kanai lacks where he objectifies Moyna but reassures Piya that she’s the one he’s after to her face. Piya’s reaction to this is a “wary smile” showcasing some form of uncomfortableness from that comment and was momentarily pleased that Kanai interrupted their conversation as an excuse to drop the subject. On the other hand, there’s Kanai and Moyna. Kanai has stated that even though he can only view Moyna as something “short-term” if it ever turned romantical, he does praise Moyna stating, “I admire her.” (Ghosh, Pg. 220) Even complimenting her by calling her a “…bright girl” (Ghosh, Pg. 156) In the “Disturbance” Chapter. When the two are together, specifically in the presence of Fokir, Kanai and Moyna both take liberty in making fun of him. In the Chapter, “Negotiations” when Piya explains why Fokir’s knowledge would be useful for her trip. Moyna makes a smart remark, “She made a funny little play on the word gyan, which means knowledge and gaan, which means song. She said that her life would be a lot easier if her husband had a little more gyan and a little less gaan.” (Ghosh, Pg. 212) This emphasizes not only the admiration Kanai has for her, but that they share the value of intelligence and their belittlement of Fokir highlights a respect that Moyna has for Kanai that she doesn’t have for Fokir.

Piggybacking off of that, Fokir and Moyna have an odd marriage. Moyna doesn’t respect Fokir because of his lack of education. Fokir is often viewed as “invisible” even to Moyna. An example of this would be when Piya brought money as a form of thanks to Fokir. “Piya rose from her chair, but was quickly pre-empted by Moyna, who stopped before her with an extended palm. Thus forestalled, there was nothing Piya could do: she handed the money to Moyna…” (Ghosh, Pg. 208) This action emphasizes that Moyna doesn’t trust Fokir enough to make financial decisions, even though he is the reason that they’re getting the money in the first place; Moyna’s lack of faith in Fokir showcases a polar opposite relationship between Moyna and Fokir, and Moyna and Kanai. Fokir’s relationship with Piya is ironically healthier than Fokir’s marriage. Piya admires Fokir’s knowledge of the sea in a similar vain to how Kanai values Moyna’s intelligence. “…her husband knows the river well. His knowledge can be of help to a scientist like myself.” (Ghosh, Pg. 212) In another interaction we see that there’s some kind of intimiate feeling that Piya has towards Fokir, when Piya first meets Moyna she internalizes that she, “…felt a twinge of envy at the thought of her going back to Fokir and Tutul, while she returned tto the absence of upstairs.” (Ghosh, Pg. 196) These pieces of evidence emphasize that there’s a level of respect and admiration that Piya has towards Fokir that Moyna lacks, despite his illiteracy Piya still treats him as an equal and cares about him enough to gather some form of a one-sided albeit intimiate connection with him through feelings of envy about his wife and how she can spend more time with him.

These differences in the relationships between these four characters then sets up the relationship between Fokir and Kanai. As mentioned prior, Kanai does take fun in belittling and making fun of Fokir. For majority of the novel, that is the gist of their entire relationship; but later on, we see this envious side of Kanai when Fokir is mentioned or praised. In the Chapter titled, “Words” Kanai tries comparing himself to Fokir in a desparate attempt of validation, “If she (Piya) had to choose between me and Fokir, whom do you think it will be? Moyna’s reply was non-committal…Her hesitation provoked Kanai…But you’re such a bright and capable girl, Moyna…Why don’t you forget about Fokir? Can’t you see as long as you’re with him you’ll never be able to achieve anything?” (Ghosh, Pg. 258) This piece of evidence emphasizes that despite his belittlement, Kanai feels threatened by Fokir; even though he lacks communication skills. Fokir has something that Kanai doesn’t have and as a result Kanai feels the need to get “competitive.” As a contrast, Fokir doesn’t pay any attention to Kanai’s belittling. In “Negotiations”, Kanai tries conversing with Fokir, “…in a loud, hearty voice, attempting friendliness, Ha-re Fokir do you know me? I’m Mashima’s nephew, Kanai Dutt. Fokir, made no answer…Fokir, it, seemed, had no interest in pursuing the conversation.” (Ghosh, Pg. 209) This piece of evidence emphasizes that the negativity in their relationship is one-sided through Kanai, his choice to speak to Fokir as if he was a child and Fokir choosing to disengage with the conversation highlights that Kanai treats Fokir horribly with no justification which pushes more into how disrespectful he can be to people. Which shows one of the many reasons as to why Fokir manages to be a better romantic interest to Piya than Kanai.

In Conclusion, the contrast of how Piya and Moyna treat Fokir and Kanai help build Fokir and Kanai’s character’s as polar opposites.

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